Don't Get Left Behind: The Future of Identity Governance

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Don't Get Left Behind: The Future of Identity Governance

Joshua Fernando

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Merill Fernando

Aug 09, 2025

Transcript

In this episode we are joined by Jef Kazimer, Principal Product Manager at Microsoft to discuss the critical role of Microsoft Entra ID Governance.

We explore the entire identity lifecycle from joiners, movers, and leavers (JML), the financial and security benefits of automated provisioning, and the pitfalls of legacy IGA solutions.

Jef shares his extensive experience, from deploying complex MIM solutions to helping shape the future of cloud-native governance, and provides key insights into how AI will drive the need for more robust governance and how Entra is leveraging technologies like Azure Logic Apps for supportable, long-term solutions.

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About Jef Kazimer

Jef Kazimer is a PM on the Microsoft Entra team, specializing in Identity Governance. With a career spanning from help desk support and consulting to his current role in engineering, Jef has a deep understanding of the real-world identity and access management challenges that organizations face. He is passionate about helping customers secure their environments by leveraging the power of the cloud.

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jefkazimer/

🔗 Related Links

• Entra ID Governance licensing docs - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/entra/id-governance/licensing-fundamentals

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09:14 What is Identity Governance (and Why You're Already Doing It)

13:16 The Hidden Costs of Poor Governance & Licensing

15:58 The Customization Trap: Why 'Simple' is Better

22:57 Common Challenges in Identity Governance

27:36 Governance for Small vs. Large Businesses

30:51 The Secret to Great User Experience

42:33 Demystifying Entra ID Governance Licensing